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Can't say exactly that I'm surprised.

The boy has no control. He knows it, I know it, everyone knows it. I'd be willing to place good money (not that I'm a gambling man...) on the idea that Jono will be fussed over, sympathized with, coddled, and allowed to continue on his uncontrolled, unchecked ways with zero efforts to correct his problems.

But I'm not a betting man.

What I'm wondering is how long it will take before instead of filling a bed in the Infirmary Jono fills one of the graves out back?

Salaam,

Haroun

Date: 2003-10-16 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-rahne.livejournal.com
I'm not sure you're being fair, sir.

Although if you were really wanting to be unpleasant you could have said he blew up part of the mansion again.

I'd do something to help if I'd any idea what. I know Ms. Frost has done some things, though I don't really understand them. I know Jono doesn't seem to want to learn anything about his powers; on the other hand, as far as I know, every time he tries something new, something blows up. At least I can practice without putting anybody in danger.

And I'm quite sure he doesn't want to kill anyone.
From: [identity profile] x-jetstream.livejournal.com
A blast-proof chamber, perhaps? Something that can handle such involuntary discharges without causing harm to surrounding persons and/or buildings?

Why am I the first person to consider this possibility?

Haroun

Date: 2003-10-16 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-kitten.livejournal.com
How dare you!

The reason Jono hasn't got control over is powers is because the teachers haven't figured out how to give him control. If you think you're more clever than Dr. McCoy and Dr. Essex and Ms. Frost then you help him, but until you can you have no right to say something like this.

Sure I do

Date: 2003-10-17 01:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-jetstream.livejournal.com
While I'm living under the same roof as that uncontrolled walking time-bomb I think I have _every_ right to call him out on the carpet for his lack of trying.

No one's forcing him to work on his deficiencies. Emma gave him the prosthetic, and like a true English prat, he whined and dithered about being forced to use it.

As to how I'd solve the problem, I'd isolate the boy and _force_ him to work on control until he's safe to be around others. If he can't control his gift, at least then he's isolated and cannot do damage to anyone _else_.

Can you fault the logic here, Ms Pryde, or should I use smaller words?

Salaam,

Haroun

No, you don't.

Date: 2003-10-17 02:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-kitten.livejournal.com
Calling Jono "out on the carpet", as you say, does neither you nor him any good. He has tried to get help, but there's only so much he can do without professional assistance. The same goes for Alex. They can't control their powers without some sort of external aid which hasn't been figured out yet, and blaming them does no one any good as neither has the technical expertise to help themselves.

Unless you have an actual solution I would suggest you kindly butt out of Jono's business. And no, isolating him to "_force_ him to work on control" is not a solution. Jono is not the first mutant to be physically unable to control his powers and, unfortunately, he is unlikely to be the last.

And no worries Mr. al-Rashid, neither your logic, your language, nor you tone is beyond my grasp.

Shalom,

Kathrine

Re: No, you don't.

Date: 2003-10-17 02:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-jetstream.livejournal.com
Has he? Has he, really? I seem to recall a thread down a little ways where he was active shooting _down_ new approaches to his control problems. Doesn't seem like actively working on his control issues to me.

I do have an actual solution. Build him a Jono-proof box, put him in it, and when he demonstrates control, let him out of it. Simple, effective, and increases the safety margin for everyone around him by a factor of ten or so.

And your statement about him not being the first, nor the last, is a non sequitor. It doesn't _matter_ if he's the first mutant with control problems or the one-millionth. He's still a danger to himself and everyone around him.

And I must give praise to Ms Frost for actually taking some initiative and providing a way for the boy to learn some control.

And, while I'm thinking of it, why is it that Pyro was going to be tried for murder for BBQing some cop cars, but when Jono puts a fellow student in the hospital and endangers dozens more, he gets a big smile and a pat on the back?

Is this just an American thing, or is it a school thing?

Salaam,

Haroun

Re: No, you don't.

Date: 2003-10-17 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-kitten.livejournal.com
How on earth was he shooting down suggesetions? All Jono said in that thread was "why would anyone bother", "If they want to waste their time, who am I to say no", and "Well, thanks. I suppose." Tell me, is your grasp of english that poor? Shooting down and idea is saying "No, that won't work." Jono never said anything of the sort. Jono couldn't really say anything like that because he doesn't know what will and won't work because his power isn't understood. By ANYONE.

Yes, Ms. Frost did take the initiative, but at no point did she suggest that what she'd done would help Jono learn control. The suits she made, from what I understand of her notes, controled his power for him. They were, she said herself, "a stopgap measure".

As for your attempt to tie John's case in, there is actually a very clear cut difference between the two. What Jono did was an accident. John intentionally set out to harm others. And the hyperbole is really not necessary. John was never going to be "tried for murder", and Jono is certainly not recieving "a big smile and a pat on the back".

Shalom,
Kathrine

Date: 2003-10-17 05:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-marrow.livejournal.com
You know, this doesn't even deserve to be responded to.

Date: 2003-10-19 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-sparky.livejournal.com
Zero efforts?

Go ahead, talk about things you don't know anything about.

Well, let's see here

Date: 2003-10-21 01:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-jetstream.livejournal.com
A couple of tens of thousands of dollars of damage to the Mansion? Check. Team-mate in the hospital? Check.

Control over his gift? Zero.

Sounds like a convincing case of not-getting-it-done to me. But if you take Ms Frost up on her suggestion and actually start WORKING on the problem, instead of sitting in your dank little room and feeling sorry for yourself, then I'll gladly revise my opinion.

Until then, I don't think so.

Haroun

Re: Well, let's see here

Date: 2003-10-21 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-sparky.livejournal.com
I've had this "gift" since May. I suppose you were a fucking genius who gained control in three days.

Just piss off.

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